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phase with the impaneling of a grand jury, so the special counsel can subpoena witnesses and documents, that wouldn't be taking place if there was no evidence to move forward. >> now, whatever that evidence is, only that special council team knows at this point, they did something unprecedented this weekend. asking the white house for paperwork related to former national security adviser michael flynn. and whatever arrangements flynn has had with the government of turkey, i want to bring in boris sanchez joining us from washington, today we heard from deputy attorney general ron rosen stein, the man who appointed mueller, what did we learn about his feelings on where this investigation is headed? >> yeah, it was really a fascinating interview and we got some insight from the newty foreign general about the man he hired to lead this special council in robert mueller, first off, one of the more interesting points that he made was that this was not a fishing
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expedition, in other words, an investigation without a focused scope in which rob mueller can endlessly pursue leads related to donald trump, his campaign and administration, he gave a vote of confidence in the special council saying that robert mueller understands the scope of this investigation, and that he is aware that if he had to step outside of that scope, he would need to seek rod rosen stein's permission to then recommend charges. another fascinating aspect of this, is the speculation over whether or not the convening of a grand jury indicates that robert mueller may recommend charges against anyone. you heard adam schiff take the position because this investigation has been going on for more than a year, and now there's this convening of a grand jury and subpoenas, it indicates there is a there there. rosen stein was not as
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enthusiastic about that perspective, here's what he said this morning on fox news. >> the special council is subject to the rules and regular races of the department of justice. the rule you read does not detail who may be the subject of the investigation. we don't reveal that publicly. i understand the specific scope of the investigation, no, it's not a fishing expedition. >> yeah, he also went on to say this convening of a grand jury is the natural course of an investigation, again, not an indication that charges would be forthcoming, ana. >> of course. the people speaking for president trump this weekend insist whatever those federal investigators are doing, they're chasing shadows. here's kelly ann conway, counselor to the president. >> the president has called it a fiction, total fabrication to excuse the unwanted defeat of
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hillary clinton in last year's election. people just can't get over that election. it's corrosive to our body politic. i suppose others will continue to talk about russia. >> i want to bring in florida republican congressman, francis rooney, he's also on the house foreign affairs committee. thanks for being with us, we just heard there from kellyanne conway. i want you to listen to what chris christie has had to say about the special counsel investigation. >> bob mueller is a good man. in my experience in dealing with him. i trust that he'll be careful to try not to go on a fishing expedition. there's always a temptation to do that, my view on this is, this is why we have people looking into it, it's not for us to make conclusions before hand, it's to let bob mueller and his team do the investigation, and then let's have the facts come out. >> congressman rooney, why is it
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so hard for president trump and his administration to say what chrissy is saying regarding this investigation zm. >> i think a lot of us feel there's so many great problems facing america right now, there's an undue amount of extraction about russia is taking us away from accomplishing some of the things the american people expect us to get done. >> do you believe the russia investigation is a total fabrication what kellyanne conway called it today? >> i think director mueller has a twished reputation. i'm sure he will conduct a fair inquiry. i am concerned that investigations could twist off into some things that are distractive. >> i don't know if you answered my question, though. do you believe this is a fabrication and not a real issue that needs to be investigated? >> i think it's a real
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investigation. i don't think we know how much beef there is to be found we know that general flynn has had some ties that are questionable. and we know there have been some things that he should or should not have reported before he came into the white house. but the rest of it seems to be pretty specious at this point to me. >> you can thank congress the same people who can't even give us health care. he doesn't seem to approve of the job you're doing, do you approve of the job he's doing? >> i approve of the job the house of representatives is doing, we are dealing with illegal aliens, we passed a health care bill, the senate doesn't seem to be able to do that, even though they've talked about it for eight years. >> who is to blame for not passing health care reform on
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behalf of the congress, and who is to blame for u.s. russia relations. again, the president's pointing the finger at you and your colleagues. >> relations have been mutating adversely for many many years. i mean, president obama's comment to medvedev, pulling out the missile shield shortly -- back in 2008. the icbm treaty where i think we got a bad deal. i'm so glad we put the missiles in poland and romania, and we're talking about doing something in the ukraine to show president putin we mean business over there. >> do you approve of the job the president is doing so far? >> i think there are many things the president has done which are commendable. he's done many things he said he would. he pulled out of the paris accord like he said he would do.
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he has done the 2 to 1 regulatory removal for every regulation put in. which couples with the house of representatives vote to appeal. $3.7 billion of cost removed from the backs of business across the country. people can now spend those man-hours, doing something productive for america. >> americans, however, are unhappy 37 they're unhappy with the job the president is doing they're unhappy with the job congress is doing. congress has a 10% approval rating this week. it's not going the right direction. do you feel many americans feel this way because of what? >> coming from the outside, i don't understand why everything's so difficult.
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the politicians spent eight years saying we're going to repeal and replace obama care. they get up there and say, wow! what are we going to do now. >> you're part of that, that's what americans are thinking, you are on the inside, you are working with members in congress. >> yes, ana, and that's why -- when i reached the conclusion that the aaca, which was made much better by the freedom caucus, got to the point where it was the most conservative, most state centered -- most patient centric proposal that could ever be gotten in this day and time, i went all out. >> republicans have an overwhelming majority, do you think it's possible americans are fed up with partisan politics? >> i think we're all fed up with partisan politics. everything is so one sided, i wish some democrats would come
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over and realize that obama care has failed and we ought to try a free market approach. i don't believe in single pair, and i think a lot of moderate democrats don't either. >> you're talking about doubling down on the freedom caucus. that's further away from democrats. >> what the freedom caucus accomplished was to get a state block grant, and the ability to put a work requirement for able bodied persons if they're going to get medicaid, i think work requirements are critical. we could have a separate discussion about what's happening to our workforce in america, if we want to fix our workforce, one thing we have to do is go back to having requirements for benefits. >> that bill didn't go anywhere. with all due respect that's not getting the job done. >> we got it done in the house, we're only one half of one
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third -- >> that's my point. it doesn't matter if he gets done in one half of congress, it doesn't matter if republicans all agree, and they can't pass it with just republicans. do you see where i'm going with that? you talk about asking democrats to come over, it seems like you're expecting them to completely adopt your ideas as opposed to finding room for negotiation, would you support the plan that's been put out there by some of your colleagues, a bipartisan plan by the problem solvers caucus 43 members of the house have signed on to a bill that does not totally repeal obama care, but -- >> i don't think it's repairable. i think the whole concept needs to be overhauled. that's why i want to repeal it. it has nothing to do with obama, it could have been truman care for all i care. >> i appreciate your time in
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offering your opinion and what you think would be solutions. we appreciate it. coming up. china's top diplomat calls on north korea to stop missile tests after tough new sanctions by the u.n. are they enough to change the regime's behavior? >> vice president pence is 3r50e7ing to run for his boss's job in 2020. how he and the white house are responding next. laquinta presents how to win at business. step one. point decisively with your glasses. abracadabra! the stage is yours. step two. choose laquinta. where you'll feel like the king of the road. check out our summer rates now at lq.com. fixodent plus adhesives. there's a denture adhesive that holds strong until evening. just one application gives you superior hold even at the end of the day fixodent. strong more like natural teeth. no splashing!
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the global pressure against north korea's nuclear threat is ratcheting up this weekend. rex tillerson met with his chinese counterpart to discuss the sanctions against the regime. here's what the chinese foreign minister had to say.
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>> translator: i think the korean peninsula situation has reached a critical point of crisis, at the same time, it's a turning point for decision making and negotiations. >> let's talk it over with aleve labott. i'm curious how this u.n. vote is playing at today's summit? >> well, i mean, certainly, it's hanging over the summit, and you heard the chinese foreign minister saying sanctions were necessary. and in fact he made those comments after meeting with the north korean foreign minister -- north korea is not a member of asean but they're attending meeting surrounding that. there's an effort to isolate north koreans there, this is a region where everybody is concerned about destabilizing the korean peninsula. everyone who is talking to the north koreans is giving a unified message that this destabilization needs to stop.
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>> i spoke with nikki haley after yesterday's vote, let's listen to a part of our conversation. >> what we've seen as a reckless dictator who has been paranoid, irresponsible and who has continued to make his own interests over the interests of his people, and i think this is now going to see what they're going to do in response. but to have china stand with us along with japan and north korea and the rest of the international community telling north korea to do this, it's pretty impactful. >> china says it will go along with these sanctions, we have heard that before, time and again. china vows to punish north korea economically. do we have any significant assurances that beijing will actually follow through this time? >> well, i think it is really significant that china signed on to these resolutions. it was intense negotiations between ambassador nikki haley and the chinese, and i think you
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have to give credit to ambassador haley for getting it through. north korea may be able to implement some of these -- skmin in a has been cutting down on north korean coal. the real thing is, ana, these other countries may follow through on these sanctions, in addition to these sectors that we're talking about, it's about a billion dollars of north korean export income. china has 90% of north korean trade. so china needs to do even more than this, it remains to be seen this is what the pressure on china has been about. we have to see how much more they're ready to do, it's unclear whether this will be enough as you say. >> before you go, rex tillerson met with his russian counterpart for the first time since president trump signed off on those russia sanctions. what do we know about that
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meeting? >> it was a really -- it seemed to be a tough meeting, of course, they have things to talk about. they have this north korea issue. they have to talk about syria, they have to talk about ukraine, this is the first time the leaders have met since those sanctions were passed on russia. that's really clouding over the relationship and these talks. before prime minister lavrov came out, he said these sanctions are dangerous, and destabilizing to world security. i think they want to talk about these national security issues, this issue about sanctions and russian meddling in the u.s. election is kind of hanging over all that like an elephant in the room elise labott we'll see you next hour. why a recent plot to bring down an airliner reflects the
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new developments in what police in australia are calling the most sophisticated terror plots ever attempted on australian soil. a man was released from custody, two brothers are now facing terror related charges. brian todd has more on this investigation and the foiled plot. brian? >> we've got new information on these two terror plots in australia which were connected. isis is getting more sophisticated with its external terror operations and could use some of these techniques on american targets. two terror plots in australia connected to one another, show isis' growing ambition to strike western targets. two men living in sydney have
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been arrested for trying to bring down a passenger plane with an eid. >> this is one of the most sophisticated plots that's ever been attempted on australian soil. >> the plotters after getting to the airport aborted the plan. authorities aren't sure why. police only got word of the planning 11 days later. according to australian officials, this was a do it yourself bomb. a senior isis commander sent part of the bomb assembled along with other loose parts, along with weapons grade explosives to turkey, via air cargo. >> this is an ikea model of terrorism. the fact that they were in touch directly to provide guidance with these blotters in australia. the supply of explosives, the imagination and ingenuity that
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went into it, take isis into a whole new ball game. >> one of the suspects was going to plant the ied on his own brother who was supposed to be an unsuspecting mule in the plan. >> his plan for was for his own brother to bring this device on board, not knowing what it was. his brother would have been killed in this attack, sacrificed. >> when the bomb plot didn't work, the alleged terrorists tried to make a device that would release a dangerous chemical in closed spaces. possibly public transportation facilities. a toxic industrial substance that smells like rotten eggs, hard to make and difficult to deploy as a weapon, but potentially deadly. >> what does it do to the body when you breathe it in? >> a very small amount would kill you in a few minutes. >> there's no evidence the device was completed. but a u.s. homeland security
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official tells cnn, the australia plots highlight the need to ramp up aviation security in america, and not play whack-a-mole with each new threat. >> look for isis to continue these types of plots, as the group loses territory on the battlefield. isis will continue to use ied's ah, laptop bombs and chemicals on western targets isis will likely get a lot better at evading security. >> a little alarming. the vice president and the white house condemning a report suggesting mike pence is proposing a white house run in 2020. what's fueling the speculation? number one rated marquee interior. behr's most advanced one-coat hide paint. only at the home depot.
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he's starting to earn the nickna nickname, the wedding crasher in chief. he hopped out of the golf cart
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just to say a quick hello. the push back is following him all the way to new jersey. trump's approval rating is at just 33%. trump's own vice president may be thinking of a bid for the white house himself should trump not seek a second term. >> it is absolutely true that the vice president is getting ready for 2020, for re-election as vice president. >> no concern he's setting up a shadow campaign? >> and also 2018 -- zero concern, that is complete fiction, that is complete fabrication, and i know that his advisers who had comments attributed to them, have pushed back very strongly, and as am i right now, unequivocally, vice president pence is a very loyal, very dutiful and also incredibly
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effective vice president, active vice president with this president. >> i want to bring in our panel now, eugene scott is here with me in new york. the deputy editor for the weekly standard also with us, the vice president himself in fact came out with an official statement on official white house letterhead today saying, this is garbage. he called this report offensive and disgraceful. what are the chances the president has some republican competition in 2020. >> i think the chances are very real. it's not a surprise he would push back against his boss that he's not considering a run. given donald trump's record low approval ratings. it's believable he would look to
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see if he would be more popular in 2020 than the current president. >> pence's full political calendar, he has his own independent fund-raising group, a super pac, that necessarily unusual behavior? >> a little bit. not entirely, everybody in an administration at that top level is going to have their own super pac, they're going to be speaking to a lot of events, and as eugene noted, a lot of people like mike pence that do not like donald trump, mike pence has been doing a good job of keeping establishment republicans and republican donors on board. you may be able to look at that and say, he's doing this in the service of the president, but let's face it, i don't think anybody should count anything out. if you recall, during the election, and even after he was pdonald trump hinted he might nt do the job? i mean, he actually said something at one point, maybe i won't -- maybe i'll just get elected and then i'll quit.
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it was sort of a throwaway comment. but that led people to think how serious is this guy taking the job, and is he determined to see it through not just one term, but possibly two. because of this uncertainty that trump himself has indicated in the past, i think it only makes sense for people to be thinking about 2020 and have a plan ready in case he does decide he doesn't want to do it again. >> of course, it's only 2017. i'm sure we'll be talking about this as we get closer to 2020. i want to talk about a new message this white house and administration is trying. we know they've had a hard time harnessing their message in the past. let's watch. >> the unemployment rate is at a 16 year low, and consumer confidence is at a 16 year high, all while the dow jones continues to break records.
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president trump has clearly steered the economy back in the right direction. >> so that was the president's facebook page. this highlights the jobs reports, the wall street and stock market surge, is this an effective way for the president to go around mainstream media and traditional sources to get the message and the message out here that he wants? >> cnn has reported on every single thing you can find on this trump themed news station network, website they have. >> i think what's more important, you want to be honest with the voters and you want to tell them everything that's happening. the reality is, there are some challenges the administration is having, and that message isn't getting to those people that only watch that network, i think what's also very important, is the fact that there are more people who watch mainstream media outlets than the very specific trump specific option. you want people on the trump
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train that aren't already on the trump train. >> when it comes to the president's favorite method of communication, twitter. let me read you a quote from the article. kelly isn't vetting every presidential tweet. trump has shown a willingness to consult with his chief of staff before hitting send. they go on to say, sometimes kelly offers an alternative way to phrase something. he's not trying to limit or stop trump from tweeting all together. do you see this as the beginning of a new era? >> there's no way anyone could stop trump from tweeting. he loves to do it, and he sees it as his way of reaching people directly. he's not going to stop. i took a look at trump's tweets since general kelly took over. i did notice quite a change in tone, a lot of the tweets that i saw since general kelly took over are a lot more professional
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in tone. there was one big exception the u.s. relationship with russia is at a dangerous low. and he went on to say, you can thank congress for that, which didn't even -- which couldn't even pass health care. i mean, there's i tweet where he's criticizing congress, both houses of which have majorities of his own party, and so that was a -- maybe general kelly, that was one of the ones he didn't get a chance to vet beforehand. but i do get the impression looking at the president's twitter feed that his tone has changed he's been a little less combative, and said things in more positive ways. i have a feeling that has to be general kelly, that's certainly not the trump tweeting we've been seeing over the last couple years. >> great to have your takes. thanks for joining us. tense moments between a police officer and the passenger of a car captured on cell phone
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video, let's watch. >> we're looking for [ bleep ]. >> i understand that, do not move. >> why are you still pointing the gun at me. >> do not move right now. >> why are you still pointing the gun at me. my hands are here. >> the california officer held his gun on that passenger for nearly nine minutes after pulling over the driver for speeding. the officer says he drew his sidearm until backup could arrive, because he saw the passenger reach under his seat after asking the driver for her license and registration. this video has gone viral now, it's been viewed more than a million times on facebook. the passengers unexpected movement toward the bottom of the seat caused the officer to perceive a threat and draw his handgun. in the end the officer had a conversation with the passenger. and why the gun was pointed at him. the passenger understood why it happened. and apologized to the officer.
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he drafted a what to do guide if you're pulled over with a gun in your car, the guideline has been published. kaley has more. >> oh, my god. >> when ka steel was pulled over for a broken taillight, he had a gun in the car, and a permit nor it. >> african-american shot by police officers. >> his traffic stop in minnesota turned deadly after telling police he was armed. and sparked nationwide outrage. >> no one should ever leave a traffic stop in a body bag, whether it's a law enforcement officer or a citizen. >> in arizona, where you don't need a permit to carry a firearm, this state lawmaker wants to help prevent another death like castille's. >> it was very important that we
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definitely made sure that law enforcement officers recognize that individuals may not be resisting or they may not be following protocol, because they just don't know what it is. >> the arizona driver's manual now includes guidelines on what to do if you're pulled over with a gun in the car. keep your hands on the wheel, when the officer approaches, tell them where the gun is. >> you're minimizing fear for the officer and the person. >> if we both do what we're supposed to do, it takes that interns moment and begins to settle it. no law needed to be passed, bipartisan support made it happen. >> he got the republican governor's support behind his idea, and then worked with multiple state agencies to agree upon language. >> i did not want to put in place more laws that would
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potentially encarcerate more individuals. i wanted to set recommendations and really urge members of the public to gain this education so they can advocate and be proactive for themselves and also so law enforcement officers have an understanding. >> we feel uncomfortable whenever we see lights behind us, it's automatically a worry for us. but now i've heard about these new guidelines, hopefully there will be a new procedure. >> people who own guns need to be responsible and respect police who are always on edge when they have to stop someone. >> arizona appears to be the first state to put in writing, recommendations to avoid another deadly traffic stop. >> it would be naive to not believe there is conflict in some of these traffic stops. and if we can do something to try to keep everybody safe in
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those traffic stops, then we should do that. >> phoenix arizona, kayley hartung, cnn. coming up, recordings of the late princess diana, on her relationship with the prince. yeah. it's nice that every bad decision doesn't have to be permenant! ditch verizon. keep your phone. we'll even pay it off when you switch to america's best unlimited network. nit's softer than ever. new charmin ultra soft is softer than ever so it's harder to resist. okay, this is getting a little weird enjoy the go with charmin
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they were meant to be private, but candid tapes of some of princess diana's intimate moments have just been made public in the u.k. to mark 20 years since the death of the princess. featuring videos never seen before in great britain. max foster explains why many of diana's friends and family have pleaded for these tapes to remain private. >> these were supposed to be her
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private moments, diana, princess of wales, rehearsing with her voice coach, relaxed, her guard down. sharing some of her most intimate thoughts. the tapes recorded by her voice coach at kensington palace and never before seen in the u.k. diana in her own words. they're also a source of great controversy, with family and friends saying the areaing of these moments amounts to a betraybe betray betrayal. the tapes were first discovered in 2001 at the home of a former butler, paul barrel. >> it's almost like reading her diary, that's wrong, it shouldn't be it can only upset prince william and prince harry, i understand there's a thirst for new information. i think it's a step too far.
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>> marcus rutherford defended the release of the recordings, saying, he was not her priest, doctor, therapist or lawyer. channel 4 says it made the decision to broadcast them, as they're important to the historical record saying, we carefully considered all the material used in the documentary, and though the recordings were made in private, the subjects covered you are a matter of public record and provide a unique insight into the preparations diana took to tell her own personal story. the tapes, part of which already aired in the u.s. diana talks openly about her marriage to prince charles. >> i was brought up and said -- >> diana speaks freely on the recordings about their dull sex life and hunts about the prince having an affairs with camilla parker bowls. she reveals her attempts do get
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the queen's help. the royal family has declined to comment on the recordings, almost 20 years has passed since her death on august 31st, diana in these videos are so vibrant, her essence so real, it's impossible not to be taken back to the time when her every move seemed to captivate the world. max foster, cnn, london. >> let's bring in kate williams joining us from london. so, this documentary ended, kate, about an hour ago. what's the reaction there? >> well, there's been a huge reaction to the documentary here in the united kingdom. it's trending on twitter all over central media. the reaction has been very, very similar across the board. i've been looking at it. and a lot of it is talking just as max is saying, about diana's charisma, her beauty, what a wonderful, emotional speaker she was. but above all it's talking about
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charles and it's not positive. a lot of critical tweets and texts and words about charles, about camilla, and particularly about charles' very cold treatment of diana. because diana made it clear in the documentary charles doesn't seem to love her from the beginning. he treats her in a cool manner, even when they're courting and makes it clear that camilla is the woman for him. he said diana at one point, i don't want to be the only prince of wales, he's expected to have a mistress. there's huge reaction. there's been a big reaction to the fact that diana went to the queen and asked for help. and the queen said, well, charles is hopeless. already one of the british newspapers has written a big editorial saying, well, charles is one who is hopeless to be our king. this documentary doesn't damage diana, it's very intimate, very exploratory, but in terms of the -- of charles, camilla and
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and a new culture built around customer service. it all adds up to our most reliable network ever. one that keeps you connected to what matters most. parody and political satire, almost at the peak it seems right now in the age of president trump. alec baldwin and melissa mccarthy, have brought laughter what's all too often political discord. it's on cnn series. >> why are there newspapers all over the place. >> political satire. crazy characters. sketches. it was anything that was fun, that you wanted to try.
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that a network would never put on. >> i would like to welcome my first guest, jessica chastain. >> jessica chastain. >> you had a program that it's talk shows, satire of talk shows. >> real interested in the work you've been doing down in haiti. tell us a little bit about that. >> well -- >> do they have a six flags down there? >> there's not. >> the new media especially cites just for comedy. i think there are good things for the business. especially with the democratization there. >> the things that succeed on the internet happen organically. i'm seeing a hilarious video. it's largely because someone shared it. >> the executive producer brad jenkins is joining us now. brad, why do you think parody and politics go hand in hand? >> look, i think it has, as you'll see tonight, a very long history. this isn't new. ever since the days of
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shakespeare, comedy is a way to speak truth to power. so i think especially in this day and age where there's so much laser focus on the 24-hour news cycle, each misstep of this administration, or this public official is stepping into, comedians are there to point it out. comedians are there also to shine a spotlight on things that maybe people aren't paying attention to. you know, it's a long history. but in this day and age of social media, people are demanding it and sharing it at a rate that hasn't been seen before. >> the current administration has claimed that the parodies have crossed the line from merely funny to mean spirited. have you seen a change in tone? >> look, "snl" has been doing this equal opportunity, making fun of presidents since its
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inception. and our founders come from the "snl" spirit, will ferrell and adam mckay. it really is, you know, poking fun at things that everyone knows, right? everyone knows these public officials, everyone knows these scandals. and it's a way of shining a light on them. i don't think that it's ever really crossed the line. donald trump himself participated in "snl." he hosted a show. >> right. >> himself. so he understands the power of comedy. he participated in a self-aware enough to realize the power of comedy. it's just -- this is, again, a very long history. we're just living it today. >> well, brad jenkins, we look forward to tonight's episode which you participate in. thank you for joining us and offering your thoughts. >> thank you for having me. >> the history of comedy at 10:00 right after the 90s here 10:00 right after the 90s here on cnn. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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with the president out of town and both houses of congress on vacation, the most visible u.s. government work being done this weekend is by the diplomats. right now secretary of state rex tillerson is in the philippines at a gathering of asian foreign ministers. he's also met with his counterpart, sergey lavrov since the u.s. leveled sanctions on his country. and one day since this moment when nikki haley voted on sanctions against north korea. north korea's foreign minister was actually at that summit in the philippines, in the same room with rex tillerson this weekend. no word yet on whether the two diplomats will formally meet. that's not expected to happen. we don't even know if they'll speak to each other even. these new sanctions against north korea are the strongest ever. a direct

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